May I just leave a comment here? I don’t comment on posts often, because I try to not draw attention to myself, but I’ve spent a very considerable amount of time in regular prison. Regular prison in the south ( northern prisons and southern prisons are very different).
All prisons (in Florida) do this kind of thing. They fudge records. They’ll put an obviously dead person on a stretcher and then not attempt life-saving measures until that person is off of the prison property that way they can declare that the person had died outside of the prison as opposed to inside of it. Almost every death that occurs will be classified as a suicide that’s just standard in most of the facilities that I’ve been to there are at least a few places off of Camera where the police can do whatever they want to you and that’s where a lot of the murders occur. Not to say that inmates don’t murder the other inmates or even that inmate murderers are less common than staff murders, but that doesn’t mean that the staff murders are less important or less of a problem.
I know very well how American prisons operate, but I can’t imagine how a deportation prison operates. I know it must be so much worse and thats saying a lot because the way it is in normal American prisons is already extremely extremely brutal.
I have personal experience with only a portion of what these people are going through, but what I experienced myself, imagining those things happening to women and children, children being put in a prison.
It boggles the mind.
I feel so deeply for these people there are neighbors. They are our friends and they’re just being kidnapped and put into concentration camps even children. It’s fucking incomprehensible.
What you’re describing makes the delay feel even less accidental. When people have seen institutions move paperwork around suffering before, official silence stops reading like an error and starts reading like part of the system.
Families should never have to fight for the basic truth about where their loved ones died and why. When even death is hidden behind delay, the whole system is showing exactly what it is.
I cannot believe this is happening in my country. Apparently I’ve been seeing the US through rose-colored glasses my whole life. This is not the place I thought it was…at least not under this administration. Please someone explain to me how these deaths and non-compliance by ICE are not crimes against humanity. How is this different from Japanese internment camps and N*zi concentration camps? It is literally soul crushing to find this out about my beloved country.
Are the families notified at the time of death? Are the bodies ever released to the families or are they just dumped somewhere? They don't respect these men in life. I can't imagine them respecting them in death. Every body should be examined for abuse.
May I just leave a comment here? I don’t comment on posts often, because I try to not draw attention to myself, but I’ve spent a very considerable amount of time in regular prison. Regular prison in the south ( northern prisons and southern prisons are very different).
All prisons (in Florida) do this kind of thing. They fudge records. They’ll put an obviously dead person on a stretcher and then not attempt life-saving measures until that person is off of the prison property that way they can declare that the person had died outside of the prison as opposed to inside of it. Almost every death that occurs will be classified as a suicide that’s just standard in most of the facilities that I’ve been to there are at least a few places off of Camera where the police can do whatever they want to you and that’s where a lot of the murders occur. Not to say that inmates don’t murder the other inmates or even that inmate murderers are less common than staff murders, but that doesn’t mean that the staff murders are less important or less of a problem.
I know very well how American prisons operate, but I can’t imagine how a deportation prison operates. I know it must be so much worse and thats saying a lot because the way it is in normal American prisons is already extremely extremely brutal.
I have personal experience with only a portion of what these people are going through, but what I experienced myself, imagining those things happening to women and children, children being put in a prison.
It boggles the mind.
I feel so deeply for these people there are neighbors. They are our friends and they’re just being kidnapped and put into concentration camps even children. It’s fucking incomprehensible.
It’s just such a pointless waste of life and human potential. I don’t get it. I don’t get it
What you’re describing makes the delay feel even less accidental. When people have seen institutions move paperwork around suffering before, official silence stops reading like an error and starts reading like part of the system.
Families of these poor dead detainees are entitled to know where their loved ones is and how they died. This whole system is a disgrace!!
Families should never have to fight for the basic truth about where their loved ones died and why. When even death is hidden behind delay, the whole system is showing exactly what it is.
I cannot believe this is happening in my country. Apparently I’ve been seeing the US through rose-colored glasses my whole life. This is not the place I thought it was…at least not under this administration. Please someone explain to me how these deaths and non-compliance by ICE are not crimes against humanity. How is this different from Japanese internment camps and N*zi concentration camps? It is literally soul crushing to find this out about my beloved country.
Are the families notified at the time of death? Are the bodies ever released to the families or are they just dumped somewhere? They don't respect these men in life. I can't imagine them respecting them in death. Every body should be examined for abuse.